Hi, I’m not sure who to ask about this … but hopefully someone will be able to help! I’m working with the Yoruba community here in Nigeria, and we have been using the Yoruba Basic Keyboard to type it (https://keyman.com/keyboards/basic_kbdyba). HOWEVER, we can’t find a way to get it to type an accent mark on the top of an . There is a way to make accent marks on top of the , but there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it on . Can someone help? Thanks!
It looks like some characters didn’t stay in your post. What characters are you wanting to put an accent over? From the help file, it looks like apostrophe makes the acute accent and [ makes the grave accent, and those seem to work on the Keyman web version of the keyboard.
OH! Sorry, it looked fine on my screen - you’d think I’d be able to actually make the characters in question show up properly! Thanks for your response, though.
The character that we need is an m with an acute or grave accent on top of it. The keyboard will make an n with the accents (ń, ǹ) but not the m (which needs the same two diacritics). OR, if there is a way to make it within the keyboard, we have not been able to figure it out. Otherwise, the keyboard works great to type the language.
Thanks!
Tanya
Sorry, I don’t think accents over m is in this keyboard.
But it looks like they are in this keyboard (looking at the documentation).
Yoruba Basic doesn’t include the accents on the m. Sorry!
Another keyboard you might try is:
Download: https://keyman.com/keyboards/sil_nigeria_dot
Documentation: https://help.keyman.com/keyboard/sil_nigeria_dot
Of course, with each keyboard the keystrokes are different.
Tanya,
Which Yoruba keyboard are you using? Try using Yoruba 1 Keyman Keyboard. It does work with n and all the vowels. Unfortunately it does not work with m. Leila has been using this keyboard for working with Yoruba.
Kent
Kent Schroeder
Domain Team Leader - Language Technology / LTU Admin Assistant
SIL Anglo-Lusophone Africa / SIL Language Technology Use Dept
Waxhaw NC 28173
972-977-1623
Hi Kent,
Thanks for the message. We tried using the Yoruba Basic first,
and it doesn’t do the m with the tones. I tried using the Yoruba8
one from Keyman, as well, and it does the m with the tones, but I
can’t make it work for some of the other special characters. So
what we have resorted to is typing the m with the accents using
Yoruba8 and then copying and pasting as we type everything else
with the Yoruba basic! Not ideal… and it seems to me if there
are people smart enough to make a way to type an accent on a n,
then could they not figure a way to type the accent on the m, too
Tanya
Steve,
It is the m character. It works for the vowels and n for the keyboard (Yoruba 1) that I have.
Kent
Kent Schroeder
Domain Team Leader - Language Technology / LTU Admin Assistant
SIL Anglo-Lusophone Africa / SIL Language Technology Use Dept
Waxhaw NC 28173
972-977-1623
Tanya,
Have you tried the Yoruba Bar keyboard? That does acute and grave over m, you can test it in the web version from the link on the download page.
download page: https://keyman.com/keyboards/yorubabar
help page: https://keyman.com/keyboards/yorubabar
Oops, I didn’t notice – the Yoruba Bar keyboard is only online. It cannot be downloaded.
Tanya,
Did you try the SIL Nigeria Dot keyboard that Lorna suggested?
If that does not work for you, it would be possible to modify the Yoruba Basic to include accents over m.
I’ve modified the Yoruba Basic keyboard and will let you know when it’s been approved and on-line.
Hi All,
Thanks for your help! I have tried the SIL Nigeria Dot keyboard
as well… and it works well for the accents on the n and m which
we needed… BUT it doesn’t make an underdot on an S, which we
also need! So it seems there is just one character missing from
each of the keyboards! I have also tried one called “Yoruba 8”
from the Keyman website, but it doesn’t seem to function at all
(or at least, I can’t make it function to give any of the tone
marks that are needed on any of the vowels!).
So, it seems like the Yoruba Basic is the best option for us,
since the underdot s is more frequent than the m (with tones on
top).
Tanya
Wow, great! Thank you!
Tanya
Tanya,
What are your specific requirements? And what platforms. I did a Yoruba layout ages ago that I haven’t pushed to the keyboard repository since there seemed to be lots of Yoruba solutions available.
Andrew
Lorna’s updated keyboard (basic_kbdyba version 1.1, supporting acute and grave over m and M) is now available at https://keyman.com/keyboards/basic_kbdyba
Andrew
Here are the list of graphemes needed for Yoruba.
Grapheme Inventory - Consonants
b d f g gb h j k l m n p r s t w y ń ḿ ṣ
20 consonants in inventory
Grapheme Inventory - Vowels
a e i in o u un ẹ ẹn ọ ọn
11 vowels in inventory
Grapheme Inventory - Tones
à á è é ì ìn í ín ò ó ù ùn ú ún
14 tones in inventory
Kent Schroeder
Domain Team Leader - Language Technology / LTU Admin Assistant
SIL Anglo-Lusophone Africa / SIL Language Technology Use Dept
Waxhaw NC 28173
972-977-1623
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