according to documentation
“}” should produce Primary stress: ˈ
“}}” should produce Secondary stress: ˌ
Unfortunately, this doesn’t work: nothing happens.
This refers to:
physical keyboard: German QWERTZ
operating system: Windows 10 Version 20H2; 64-bit
Keyman for Windows 14.0 (Build: 14.0.273.0) + Keyboard IPA (SIL) (Keyboard ID: sil_ipa; Keyboard-Version 1.8.4; last updated: 2020-08-10)
Perhaps it is possible to inform the developers and to solve this tiny problem …
Apart from that: I am all enthusiastic about the possibilties of Keyman!
Wow, that was fast!
Many thanks to you, Marc, and to Lorna!!
Casual remark on the update process:
The “Keyman for Windows User Guide” states: “If a keyboard with the same name is already installed, Keyman will ask you if you want to replace the old keyboard or cancel the installation.”
But when running the update of SIL IPA (1.8.4 > 1.8.5) within Keyman (Keyman configuration > Download keyboard) I was actually not asked if I wanted to replace the old keyboard (= old version 1.8.4).
Of course, this does not matter at all: The update worked, and now I can use my German hardware keyboard (QUERTZ) to insert IPA symbols for primary and secondary stress.
the problem described at the beginning of this thread ( “}” for primary stress and “}}” for secondary stress do not work on physical German/QWERTZ-keyboard) had been fixed successfully in version 1.8.5 of the SIL IPA keyboard.
Unfortunately, this fix is not part of version 1.8.6 of the SIL IPA keyboard. So there’s the same problem once again.
Is it possible
to provide a current version with this fix
to make sure that this fix will remain in later versions (and will not be forgotten …) ?
I’ve just checked version 1.8.6, and it does still include this fix for German keyboards. So there is something else going on. Has there has been any other changes to your system configuration recently, or updates to Keyman itself? Would you be able to run a diagnostic report for us to review?
thanks for your reply!
Well, I would never have thought that the fix is still included and that there might be a problem with my system. (I am not aware of any intentional changes.)
Right now, I am packing up for a two-week vacation. When I come back, I will try dealing with the IPA (SIL) problem and will report.
Well, I have investigated more deeply and located the issue – the SIL IPA keyboard itself is correct, but there is a bug in Keyman 15 for Windows which has surfaced here. I’ve just created a patch for the 16.0 beta, and we’ll back-port that to 15.0 once it passes test:
Hey, that’s good news!
Last week I had sent the “Diagnostics report”, and now I logged on to the board to see if there might be a solution to the problem.
I am glad that you could replicate and finally locate the issue.
Thanks for investigating more deeply and working on a solution!
Fantastic!
Actually, I didn’t pluck up the courage to try the Beta version of Keyman (16), but decided to wait for this minor update of (stable) current version 15.
Thanks a lot, Marc!
We encountered the same issue, and found this tread. We have installed the latest keyman version 16.0.139 for Windows and the IPA SIL font 1.8.6 on Windows 11, and we are able to type neither Primary Stress nor Secondary Stress. The physical keyboard layout on my laptop is Norwegian.
